Chauncey: Welcome back to the Being Found show, we’re going to talk a little bit
about the technology news here. The New York City Police Department Have approved drones. A fleet of drones to help them in their New York City law enforcement.
In this world of privacy issues, you know, first off I’ve got to say that I don’t know if it’s fair to say that we have a world of privacy issues. All of you out there who are over 30, maybe over 28, 30, somewhere in there, are probably thinking what about my privacy? They want my stuff; they want my DNA, ah, they’re going to take me. Everybody under 30 has grown up in this world, and they don’t care.
So when we’re talking about privacy issues, it’s a losing battle because I don’t know
if you know this, but here in America, more people are born every day than die. The youngsters are going to win out in the end.
Jake Hinton: Yeah.
Chauncey: Regardless of how you feel about it. So privacy is taking over, but what’s your take on this, I mean the lack of privacy is taking over but what’s your take on the use of drone fleets?
Jake Hinton: Go for it. That’s what I say.
Chauncey: Yeah, so my first thing that I thought of was not a privacy issue. I already know that they have cameras all around New York and the New York City Police
Department has been doing that for a long time. Inevitably something always goes wrong with tech.
Jake Hinton: Yes for sure.
Chauncey: What happens when that thing crashes and kills an old lady or something?
Jake Hinton: Well, here’s my take on this whole thing, and that is that tools will be tools. The drones in and of themselves are not bad, provided the people using them are using them for the right reasons. In this case, emergency situations. If they were deployed with the intent on collecting information or spying or something like that, of course, I’d have a problem with that.
The way I see it, The other night there was a car accident in my neighborhood, and it was the end of a police chase, and for the next hour, there were two helicopters circling my block looking for this guy. I was kind of just thinking, gosh, I wonder how much jet fuel the city just burned through, for these two helicopters like thousands of dollars worth of fuel. If they could have deployed a couple of drones, that maybe, well they don’t burn any fuel at all.
Chauncey: Yeah, I get that.
Jake Hinton: Maybe they cost as much, maybe they cost 5000 bucks up front, but then you can deploy these things. They take the place of a classic helicopter or whatever the situation calls for, and the city saved a ton of money, and I can sleep at night.
Chauncey: Well, the flip side of this argument because you started by saying like if they were out there trying to collect information on me that would be on thing. So everything is a slippery slope in this world, and I think a lot of people who are
concerned about their privacy are concerned about the information collection
that’s going on that they don’t know about. And assuming that it probably is from these higher powers and so on, so there is concern and sort of the slippery slope reference that I was making there is right now we’re using drones to help us catch a criminal.
Jake Hinton: Yeah.
Chauncey: How long until those drones are replacing boots on the ground? How long until those drones are replacing police officers? How long until those cops are replaced by drones?
Jake Hinton: To my knowledge, I think there are cities which are deploying test drones. They look like trash cans and right now the only job they have is parking tickets. So they’ll slowly go down the sidewalk, and photograph license plate numbers. And then as they circle the block if they see this certain license plate number that’s been there for longer than whatever the allotted time is, then it will send that person a ticket in the mail.
Now is that potentially a terrible invasion of privacy? Yeah. Potentially, but it
might free up the police so they can deal with major issues and not have to deal with parking tickets.
Chauncey: Right, that’s true, I can’t help but think about the sort of corporate conspiracy aspect of this. How do people get more and poorer, have a harder time finding jobs, while machines are taking over their work? Now, I am down with machines taking over my work. That’s great. As long as I have to work less as a result of it, but I don’t know if society is getting that out of these machines.
So that’s a major issue of mine when they have the drones come in because I’m
all great there’s a bunch of people who don’t get jobs yet all of us aren’t going to
benefit from a little bit more time off or a little bit more money. According to an article on cnbc.com, marketers are spending more on technology and less on people.
Jake Hinton: Yeah, I think, and I haven’t done a lot of research on this, but kind of knee-jerk reaction. I don’t think more machines doing more jobs equals fewer jobs. I think our jobless rate today, is the lowest it’s been in like 20 years, and that’s in
the 20 years that robots have started doing these jobs. So I think it’s kind of a false idea to say it’s either one or the other. I think it can be both if we do it smartly.
Chauncey: I agree. It should be done smartly. A day will come where there is no work to be done.
Jake Hinton: I don’t know. There still has to be decisions made, and maybe you’re saying AI will make those better and faster than people.
Chauncey: We might work three days a week, but there will come a time, in human history where there’s a lot more free time for people. So yes, you’re right. I think a lot about that was scare tactics and people are scared of the tech, and I think that’s a fair statement. That we are safer today, on the entire planet. Even some of these war-torn countries. We’re safer today than we ever have been throughout human history.
The only thing you’re not safer from is maybe getting killed when a drone
crashes on you because drones didn’t exist back then. You are safer today, but a lot of people will say at what cost?
Jake Hinton: Yeah. Here is what I always go back to, and maybe this is a stupid idea, but no one has said otherwise to me yet. That is that, could you imagine 200 years ago someone saying, no, we really shouldn’t build a railroad and have a train that can carry a million pounds at a time, because what would all the people who transport pelts on their backs do for a living?
Chauncey: Right, of course.
Jake Hinton: If you think that far back, you’re like that’s ridiculous. They’ll educate
themselves and find better jobs rather than hiking pelts up and down the
Chauncey: I read some statistic that said that like 70% of jobs that will exist by 2020, I mean 70% of jobs by 2020 don’t even exist today. The careers just don’t exist because we’re coming up with new technologies and changes. So who knows what the future has in store? All you humans out there that are listening. Fix your intentions. Technology is going, watch the watchdogs, do that stuff, but technology will not stop.
Jake Hinton: Demand that your government watches their intentions.
Chauncey: Right. So stop focusing on “stopping tech”, because you already lost that war.
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